Recent Changes/Updates and Thoughts

[proncain]

What really hurts about this is that the new pose looks fucking great, with a bunch of options and its well drawn and animated...

but that doesn't even begin to outweigh the negatives: took two months to release, and is another obvious moneygrab.

Who the fuck is paying for this shit? Either the devs are actually making money through these poses, or they simply don't give a fuck. I have a strong inkling as to which one it is.

[crimsonextacy]

(12-21-2019, 02:35 PM)proncain Wrote: Who the fuck is paying for this shit? Either the devs are actually making money through these poses, or they simply don't give a fuck. I have a strong inkling as to which one it is.

I bought the Futa potion because it had 3 poses (though it turned out to be 2 and they were both recycled) and they said there would be more updates. This is just one pose, even if it is well done I can't see nearly as many people actually buying this compared to the Futa potion.

For starters it's just one pose. Second Futa's have been in high demand and loads of people have Futa characters in game. I can't recall people really asking for a pose like this. And its something females buy but I think the idea of the pose is going to appeal more to males.

[Overfiend]

so much vivid feedback here so i thought i would add my 2 cents.
1. futa pose & milking pose was not the result of my sex pose poll just to be clear. not that anyone was saying that but i just want to say its a shame that the devs didn't listen to the poll results. ill be writing them to remind them about those results to avoid the negative feedback we see here. and to promote the ideas that were voted for.

2. the cost of the futa pose and the milking pose does raise questions. why don't premiums get it for free? or at least allow premiums to pay with in game money. we are already paying the monthly premium fee.

3. the futa pose was hot. the milking pose is cute. but these fetish poses have a limited audience.  we've already heard that some women are offended by the milking pose. And some of us really like straight sex. So I'm wondering why are the devs focusing on such a small interest base when they can produce poses that target a broader audience with the missing fundamental sex poses for MF, FF, MM, threesomes & foursomes. im not sure who the devs are listening to or what they are thinking. it seems like their priorities are mixed up.  I think loads of people would have preferred a MF, FF, MM, threesomes & foursomes pose. it would show they care. it would build a stronger foundation of poses. and therefore would encourage more premium sign up. adding fringe poses for a cost before the basic foundation of poses is premature and stirs up resentment

4. its be months since I've seen an update that I'm interested in and that's a shame. especially from a long time supporter

5. the new milking pose has a ton of playing options. But our other premium sex poses only get easy medium hard fucking.  its about time that the devs give our regular premium sex poses just as many options as this. otherwise its an insult to premium payors because we feel like we're not getting our money's worth.

[NotMe]

(12-20-2019, 07:36 PM)crimsonextacy Wrote:

(12-20-2019, 06:34 PM)Nelliel Wrote: hello to all!
i have a big problem with the newest update. as a women i feel really insulted and humiliated with it

I'm sorry to hear that it bothers you so much but there isn't much you can do about it. Simply don't buy it.

 
I guess, if someone feels insulted and humiliated, it could be not just  because of the existence of the milking pose/option itself, but also because of the new "milking cow"-image on the starting screen http://www.mnfclub.com, which you have to look at each time you log into the game … 
so "Simply don't buy it" is perhaps not really the solution for this problem …

[crimsonextacy]

(12-22-2019, 07:18 PM)NotMe Wrote:

(12-20-2019, 07:36 PM)crimsonextacy Wrote:

(12-20-2019, 06:34 PM)Nelliel Wrote: hello to all!
i have a big problem with the newest update. as a women i feel really insulted and humiliated with it

I'm sorry to hear that it bothers you so much but there isn't much you can do about it. Simply don't buy it.

 
I guess, if someone feels insulted and humiliated, it could be not just  because of the existence of the milking pose/option itself, but also because of the new "milking cow"-image on the starting screen http://www.mnfclub.com, which you have to look at each time you log into the game … 
so "Simply don't buy it" is perhaps not really the solution for this problem …

You could ask the mods to say something to the dev's but would they actually change it? I'm assuming they're keeping the starting image until at least early next year due to the holiday theme.

And though I agree that the idea of a milking pose would have a limited target audience I disagree that Futa characters and poses would as well. Plenty of people have been asking for Futa characters for years and loads of people have Futa characters in the game. If you go to the beach or wild west areas on a crowded server you'll easily see like a dozen characters with the word "futa" in their screen name. And then theres still people who play as futa characters without having the word in their name and Male and Female characters who have their bios saying they like Futas. Obliviously not everyone is into these characters but its certainly not a small percentage.

[Sasso]

Considering the backlash against the way this has been monetized what would people want if they "fixed" it? If the price was changed to make it so that it was obtainable though in game means permanently, should the people who had already bought the milking or futa pose be reimbursed somehow? I doubt they could be refunded, but maybe they could be provided with complimentary membership.

I haven't seen the new pose yet or the effects of the potion in game but personally, I'm kinda into a milking pose.

[subgirl25]

ok heres my 2 cents on this futa thing is understandable but milking its fine if they had pregnancy options its makes since but since thats not a option i see it was just wrong but if u dont like it theres really only one thing u can do about and thats stop giving them money if they loses enough paid players then they might do a change but other then that they dont care

[NotMe]

(12-22-2019, 08:27 PM)crimsonextacy Wrote: And though I agree that the idea of a milking pose would have a limited target audience I disagree that Futa characters and poses would as well. Plenty of people have been asking for Futa characters for years and loads of people have Futa characters in the game. If you go to the beach or wild west areas on a crowded server you'll easily see like a dozen characters with the word "futa" in their screen name. And then theres still people who play as futa characters without having the word in their name and Male and Female characters who have their bios saying they like Futas. Obliviously not everyone is into these characters but its certainly not a small percentage.

I agree. The so called "Futa" option is also used in many creative ways by Sissies, feminine boys, Gays, Tanssexuals, Transgenders, Shemales etc. It is more than just a pose, cause you can see/show cock and breasts in public. So it is a bit like a "third gender" character. 
I guess we all know, that many of the female avas are obviously played by males (which is ok, it is a game, where people like to experiment), especially many of the "Bimbos", "Whores", and "Sluts". That means, in my view, that under the carpet, the hetero dominated mnf-game is really not that straight at all. So the Futa/shemale-option is one good way, in my opinion, to open up more diverse possibilities to play with gender here. (Especially because there is only one MM pose, even no shower).
So i appreciated the invention of the Futa/shemale option a lot. It is just a shame, that since the announcement of "more poses" on 10/10/19, nothing happened. 
Now i am really worried, if it is just the time of a finale sellout of mnf: offering more new expensive expansions, but not providing the promised service (for futa/shemale). Has this something to do with the general technical problems of the game, which are discussed here in the forum ("MnF Club, an uncertain future")?
It would be great, if you, Sasso, and any other Mod, could help us in this situation.

[Overfiend]

I could see how futa option fills the gap of letting males play as both male and female. But in part its a band-aide for the games lack of thoughtful development. The game should aim to attract females and provide an fair outlet for the lesbian and gay community
Again it proves the point that the game is missing some fundamental features leading people to alternatives. Here is a list of some basic things that the game needs that should have been a higher priority than the milking pose.
Fundamental things still missing in the game
1. MM poses in general. Especially MM oral
2. FF oral sex pose
3. a high rewarding money making method for Males. for example a Stripper option for males. Males would feel less inclined to play as a female "Slut" or "Whore" if males felt like they could make money as a male
4. Sex play options & poses that are attractive to females.
a. Poses do not include kissing, playing with the clit, romantic embracing, fondling and just the general sexual skills of females.
b. There should be more poses where females can show their moves. For example Strippers don't have a proper lap dance pose. That's a default at nearly every real strip club
c. every pose should include a female climax option along side the male cum option. So female can have the option of climaxing even if he doesn't cum. that would be very hot.
5. MF Foreplay poses are lacking - no handjob pose, no spanking, mutual masturbation pose (handjob & fingering at the same time). the milking pose is an attempt at tit play pose but it seems to go too far with the milking aspect. I love tit play but i'm not into it for bucket of milk.
6. Still missing some basic threesome poses.
a. FFM - Where is the pose where he fucks her while she licks another girl?
b. FFM Where is the pose where one girl is riding his cock and the other girl is riding his face?
c. FFM where is the double blowjob.
d. MMF where is the alternating blowjob and handjob pose. She should be able to suck one cock while giving the other a handjob.
e. MMF popular variations like the cowgirl, reverse cowgirl and doggy style double penetration poses (pussy, ass and mouth fucking).
7. Still missing FFFM altogether. It's a man's dream to fuck a lot of women at once. In a male dominated game where's the pose with 1 guy and 3 girls.
8. MFMF group sex is missing altogether. Sex parties are in desperate need of one.
9. We still have zones in the game which are under developed like the Cabaret, the Casino, the Suburbs.
10. where's the Glory hole for players to participate with each other.
11. Where's the option for additional female body types - slim and thick, changing the butt/hip size
12. Shower sex poses are underdeveloped across the board
13. Additional public sex locations are underdeveloped

There are so many underdeveloped yet fundamental things that it just doesn't seem like the milking pose should have been a priority.
If money was the driver then it should have been a one-time cost for free users but not an additional cost to premiums.
At most premiums should be able to pay with in game money that we received from paying months and months of real money in premiums already

[nula]

for reference, how much of a money maker is the mmo compared to the main mnf site?