Aggressive Poems

[EroticUdyr]

(05-26-2016, 12:18 AM)Anallee Wrote: Perhaps we should rename the forum Censored Writing.  Personally I find what you have written offensive, but I respect your freedom to do so.  Have you ever considered that many of these poems are drawn from real life?  Have you considered that an anonymous avatar here can never evoke such passion?  Have you considered poetic license?  Have you considered the fact that many have died protecting the right to free speech?  Have you considered the simple fact that these poems evoking and eliciting a response from you, is exactly what they are intended to do?

Consider these before you speak with your other moderators.  Your veiled threat can't stop art.  It never has.  It never will.  Here's a thought, don't read them.  If you need more food  for thought I will be happy to provide that also.

I'm gonna throw my own opinions out here as well.
If some content on this forum is found offensive by some viewers, wouldn't it be for the best to remove it or edit it?
Having freedom to speak out is one thing, but to make a public post where you subtly target a specific individual? Isn't that kinda the same as speaking out to a mob about said individual? 

"Personally I find what you have written offensive, but I respect your freedom to do so.", do you actually think everyone would immediately respect the author's freedom of speech after reading a negative poem about oneself? Would you?

Also, you neglect the fact that this post was Emmie's own subjective opinions. When you point out things like "freedom of speech", whilst labeling the post as a "veiled threat", you are doing the same thing you're accusing Emmie of doing. You make it seem like she is trying to make someone shut up, when you're the one labeling her opinions as threats! Irony.
Doesn't Emmie have freedom of speech as well? She basically just said she didn't approve, and explained why she had that opinion. How is that a threat? Do you feel threatened?

"Here's a thought, don't read them", the poems Emmie is talking about aren't (as far as I know) targeted at her. Meaning, even if she doesn't read them, the target will. Which would not change the fact that the poem is targeted at one specific individual. Making your "thought" absolutely void.

Even if the poems are drawn from real life, does that mean your opinions about someone else MUST go public?
I'm not denying that you are free to state your opinions, but the forum has guidelines. Guidelines to make sure no one is feeling they're being targeted by negative feelings, opinions and/or statements.
Not everyone makes poems, and the targeted individual might not be able to answer with her/his own poem. In some cases, there'd be only one side of the dispute that is able to make such a public statement. 
Which tells us that the one making a statement to the public (in form of a poem) obviously is in a position to receive support, whilst the other is not.



Now, I kinda just want to add more of my own opinions here: Some of these cases are extremely ironic. For I know, with certainty, that some people are and/or have been feeling bullied. Making a poem like targeting one individual, is disgusting. 
I will tell why I think so. The author has usually victimized himself/herself, which is not really an effective way of sharing your own opinion. Instead of seeing people actually agree with you, you will find people pity you. Pity does not always mean the same thing as being agreed with in a dispute, no matter what the topic or the essence of the dispute is. 
Also, the poems are targeted to one individual, yes. Though, there will of course be several readers. Meaning, it can be compared to speaking out to a mob, where the author is talking ill of said individual. The mob mentality is something that will kick in at this point, and every reader will be curious to know who the poem is directed at.
And there you go, you've made a bandwagon. Congratulations, you have successfully made several people target one specific individual.
In some cases, the targeted individual doesn't make the same kind of public statements. In other words, the author has a certain power and/or dominant control, both over the target and the mob.
And this, by definition, counts as bullying.

If an author of such a poem, successfully makes a mob target one individual, it classifies as bullying.
Here is the disgusting part, some of the authors of these poems claim they are being bullied.



The sweet combination of cringe and irony makes this topic into a huge pot of delicious bullshit.
Now that is art.

-Erotic